Fact check: Jody Hice, running to oversee Georgia elections, makes yet more false 2020 claims

Fact check: true.

Hice, who has been endorsed by former President Donald Trump, has centered his campaign on false claims about the 2020 election — including the claim that Trump would have won Georgia if the election had been “fair.” And Hice has repeatedly made false claims about Raffensperger’s actions as Georgia’s elections chief.

Here is a fact check of some of the things Hice said at the Monday debate. Hice’s campaign didn’t respond to a CNN request for comment.

Hice said to Raffensperger: “You created ballot harvesting in Georgia.” He later repeated: “Ballot harvesting was created, in the state of Georgia, because of Brad Raffensperger.”

Facts FirstHice’s claim is false. Raffensperger did not create ballot harvesting in Georgia. In fact, less than three months after Raffensperger became secretary of state in 2019, Gov. Brian Kemp signed a law that outlawed ballot harvesting in Georgia.
“Ballot harvesting” can be described more neutrally as “ballot collection.” In general, the phrase refers to the practice of organizations or activists collecting voters’ completed absentee ballots and submitting them for counting — rather than voters sending in their ballots themselves or getting a family member or friend to submit them.
The 2019 law gave Georgia voters two basic options: “personally” mail in or deliver their absentee ballots, or have the ballots mailed in or delivered by someone they live with or by a family member. In other words, the law prohibited third-party groups from collecting and submitting the ballots of strangers.
It’s at least possible that there was some ballot harvesting in Georgia in the 2020 election; Raffensperger’s office is investigating harvesting allegations made by a right-wing group. But even if illegal harvesting did happen, that wouldn’t mean Raffensperger “created ballot harvesting in Georgia.” (It also wouldn’t mean the actual ballots delivered by ballot collectors were fraudulent or invalid.)

Raffensperger and Stacey Abrams, Part 1

Hice claimed that Raffensperger “was making deals with Stacey Abrams” — the Democratic gubernatorial candidate and former state House minority leader — “and opened wide the door for election fraud in this state in every way.” Hice referred to Raffensperger’s supposed “deal” with Abrams at other moments of the debate as well.

Facts FirstHice’s claims are false. Raffensperger did not make a deal with Abrams. If Hice was referring, as he has in the suitsto a March 2020 legal settlement between Raffensperger and Democratic Party entities about the state’s signature verification process for absentee voters, Abrams was not involved in that agreement — as one of the debate panelists, Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter Mark Niesse, pointed out to Hice. And there is no basis for the claim that this legal settlement or anything else Raffensperger did “opened wide the door for election fraud in this state in every way.”
Claim after claim about supposed major election fraud in Georgia in 2020 has been debunked. It’s possible that a smattering of Georgia ballots were fraudulent, but there is no evidence of voter fraud even close to widespread enough to have changed the outcome in a state Joe Biden won by 11,779 votes.
And there is no evidence that the 2020 settlement agreement about signature verification led to any widespread fraud. A signature audit of a sample of more than 15,000 absentee ballot envelopes in Cobb County, a major Atlanta-area county won by Biden, found zero fraudulent ballots.

Signature verification

When debate panelist Niesse pressed Hice to explain how the settlement agreement supposedly weakened absentee ballot verification, Hice insisted, “Well, it did weaken the signature verification. It made it much more difficult for it to take place. You had to eventually notify the voter themselves.”

Facts FirstThis is misleading. Even before the settlement agreement, the elections law passed by Georgia Republicans in 2019 had required counties to “promptly” notify voters of problems that were about to get their ballots tossed out, such as missing or nonmatching signatures, and give the voters a chance to correct these issues. The settlement agreement set out specific deadlines for notifying the voters, instead of relying on the vague word “promptly,” and laid out the methods by which the notifications had to be done.
As Niesse noted to Hice, the percentage of absentee ballots rejected over signature problems in the 2020 general election, after the settlement agreement, was nearly identical to the rate in the 2018 midterm election, before the settlement agreement.

Raffensperger and Stacey Abrams, Part 2

Hice decried Raffensperger’s decision to send an absentee ballot request form to each of Georgia’s active registered voters during the 2020 party primaries. (Raffensperger, like officials in other states, sent out these forms because of the Covid-19 pandemic. He did not send out unsolicited ballot request forms during the 2020 general election.)

Hice said, “We had a conference call, the Georgia delegation, with Brad, urging him, urging him not to send out absentee ballot requests to everyone on our voter registration file. He did it anyways. In fact, the deal was already made with Stacey Abrams before that call ever took place.”

Facts FirstThis is false. Again, Raffensperger did not make a deal with Abrams. And Raffensperger’s settlement agreement with the Democratic Party entities had nothing to do with his decision to mail out the absentee ballot request forms during the primaries. in fact, the settlement agreement did not say anything about who should be sent a ballot request form. The agreement was about the signature-matching process in particular.

Abrams campaign spokesperson Seth Bringman said Monday that Abrams was among the voting rights advocates who urged Raffensperger to send ballot request forms to Georgia voters of all ages rather than just older voters, as an Atlanta Journal-Constitution report in March 2020 had said Raffensperger was initially schedule. But the Raffensperger campaign said Abrams had no involvement in or influence on Raffensperger’s decision, made public about a week after that news report, to send ballot request forms to voters of all ages; Raffensperger campaign spokesperson Lance Dutson said Raffensperger’s office “pushed back on Stacey Abrams and her liberal allies” on various proposals, as Abrams-founded group Fair Fight Action noted in tweets criticizing Raffensperger at the time.

Regardless, there is zero indication that there was any kind of “deal” between Raffensperger and Abrams about this Raffensperger decision.

Absentee voting and voter identification

Hice said that Raffensperger had opened the door to changes that harm “election integrity,” including “sending out absentee ballot requests, having virtually no voter identification associated with these.” Hice added, “Those are the things that really must be corrected that have not been dealt with under this current leadership of Brad Raffensperger.”

Facts First: It’s not true that Georgia hasn’t “corrected” the issue of requiring voter identification for absentee voting or the issue of the secretary of state sending out absentee ballot request forms. In 2021, Kemp signed a law that required absentee voters to provide a child or identification other than just their signature and that banned governments and government officials from sending out unsolicited absentee ballot request forms. In addition, Raffensperger wasn’t the reason that identification other than a signature was not previously required for applications to vote by mail. State lawnot Raffensperger policy, had specified that only a signature was required.

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